[NRO-IANAXFER] [cooperation-wg] Fwd: Internet Number Community IANA Stewardship Proposal: Final Call for Comments

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Tue Jan 13 03:23:30 CET 2015


Dear Nick,


Thank you for your comment and expressing your support.
Please see my reply to your questions below.

They have not been explicitly discussed within the CRISP Team yet and 
therefore needs to be confirmed with the Team but my responses are based 
on what has been discussed within the CRISP Team until today.

 > 1. has the IETF Trust agreed in principal to accept IPR transfer of the
 > IANA trademark and iana.org domain?

This is something which still needs to be coordinated, including the 
IETF and the name communities.

In our proposal, we have expressed what we think would be desirable from 
the perspective of the number resources in the use of iana.org, with the 
note that coordination is needed with relevant parties.

 > 2. Re: III.A.4.ix, the IETF Trust is not "public domain" so it may be
 > appropriate to use a different phrase in this paragraph, e.g. "to the
 > community via an appropriate holding mechanism as described in section
 > III.A.2", or something along those lines.

Understood your point.
I'll reconfirm with the CRISP Team and consider reediting as needed.

 > 3. which jurisdiction / governing law will be used for the proposed new
 > IANA contract between the RIRs and ICANN?  The State of California / US
 > Federal law? or will this be left for a future discussion?

This will be left for the decision of the RIRs with sufficient legal 
expertise. We are considering to describe in our proposal about 
community consultation before fixing the SLA (wording still to be worked).

 > 4. III.A.4.x: resolution of disputes should first use arbitration 
(although
 > it may be difficult to get an appropriate arbiter), and then through the
 > legal system.

Understood your point, but let me confirm within the CRISP Team whether 
this level of details is to be reflected at this stage of our proposal.

Our general position is, if it is a common principle in considering 
arbitration/dispute resolution, which doesn't need special 
considerations related to the number resources functions, we expect the 
RIRs with its legal team to address it, as a common sense consideration 
in the legal context.


Best Regards,
Izumi Okutani
The CRISP Team

On 2015/01/12 20:20, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> Nurani,
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to this document.  I have been following the
> updates over the last month and have read through the proposal; it looks
> like a sound basis in terms of ensuring long term stability of global
> Internet number resources.  Particular thanks to the RIR community members
> who were involved in drafting the proposal.  It has also been very helpful
> to get regular updates to the RIPE Co-operation Working Group, as it
> reaffirms CRISP's community-centred approach to the the IANA transfer program.
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> 1. has the IETF Trust agreed in principal to accept IPR transfer of the
> IANA trademark and iana.org domain?
>
> 2. Re: III.A.4.ix, the IETF Trust is not "public domain" so it may be
> appropriate to use a different phrase in this paragraph, e.g. "to the
> community via an appropriate holding mechanism as described in section
> III.A.2", or something along those lines.
>
> 3. which jurisdiction / governing law will be used for the proposed new
> IANA contract between the RIRs and ICANN?  The State of California / US
> Federal law? or will this be left for a future discussion?
>
> 4. III.A.4.x: resolution of disputes should first use arbitration (although
> it may be difficult to get an appropriate arbiter), and then through the
> legal system.
>
> Overall, this looks like an excellent document and I fully support it.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Nick Hilliard
> Chief Technical Officer
>
> http://www.inex.ie/
> INEX - Internet Neutral Exchange Association
> Citywest Business Campus,
> Dublin 24
> Ireland
>
> On 08/01/2015 16:27, Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Today the Consolidated RIR IANA Stewardship Proposal (CRISP) team publishes the second draft of the Internet numbers community proposal on the transition of the IANA stewardship. This is intended as a final call for community feedback ahead of the submitting the finalised proposal to the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) on Thursday, 15 January.
>>
>> We understand that many in the RIPE community have a strong interest in this process, and feedback provided in this working group and elsewhere has been crucial in reaching the current draft.
>>
>> While there is still an opportunity to provide comments on the current text, we would also like to strongly encourage RIPE community members in favour of this proposal to express their support on this list or via the ianaxfer at nro.net mailing list. A quantifiable level of community support may be important in strengthening the Internet numbers community�s position later in the IANA stewardship transition process.
>>
>> As previously, the timeline for responding is quite tight, with a deadline of Monday, 12 January, for all comments.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nurani Nimpuno
>> on behalf of the RIPE CRISP team
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp>
>>> Subject: [NRO-IANAXFER] Internet Number Community IANA Stewardship Proposal: Final Call for Comments
>>> Date: 8 januari 2015 17:21:08 CET
>>> To: "ianaxfer at nro.net" <ianaxfer at nro.net>
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find the second draft of the Internet numbers community's
>>> response to the Request For Proposals issued by the IANA Stewardship
>>> Coordination Group (ICG).
>>>
>>> This draft has been prepared by the Consolidated RIR IANA Stewardship
>>> Proposal (CRISP) Team, with considerations of feedback received from the
>>> global community on <ianaxfer at nro.net> mailing list.
>>>
>>> We have incorporated the following key points in the second draft:
>>>
>>>   - Additional description on contract details, review committee and
>>>     intellectual property rights
>>>   - Description revised on Section V. NITA Requirements and VI.
>>>     Community Process for more clarity
>>>   - No changes are made to key elements of the proposal
>>>
>>> The CRISP Team have considered all comments expressed on
>>> <ianaxfer at nro.net> mailing list before the deadline of 5th Jan 2015, and
>>> would now like to make the final call for comments from the global
>>> community on the draft proposal, before submitting to the ICG.
>>>
>>> Second Draft proposal:
>>> ------------------------
>>> Clean Version  :
>>> <http://www.nro.net/crisp-proposal-second-draft>
>>>
>>> Redline Version:
>>> <http:/www.nro.net/crisp-proposal-second-draft-change-control>
>>>
>>> The deadline for providing feedback: Mon, 12 January 2015 23:59 UTC
>>> Feedback should be sent to         : <ianaxfer at nro.net> mailing list
>>>
>>> Community Inputs Considered by the CRISP Team:
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> You can check the status of the issues raised by the community and
>>> proposed the CRISP Team positions at:
>>>
>>>    <http://www.nro.net/crisp-iana-xfer-summary-discussion-08012015>
>>>
>>> Key dates:
>>> -----------
>>>    Second draft to be published	    :  8 Jan 2015
>>>    Second draft comments close	    : 12 Jan 2015, 23:59 UTC
>>>    Final proposal to be sent to ICG : 15 Jan 2015
>>>
>>> How to Engage in Discussions:
>>> -----------------------------
>>>   All global discussions, for the CRISP team to consider as community
>>>   feedback, will be conducted at <ianaxfer at nro.net> mailing list.
>>>   All the CRISP Team discussions are open to observers.
>>>
>>> Next Step:
>>> -----------
>>>   In developing the final draft based on further feedback, the CRISP
>>>   Team will ensure it has completed considerations of all substantial
>>>   issues raised by the global community, which are compiled in the
>>>   published issues list. The proposal will only incorporate issues that
>>>   the CRISP team believes have received consensus support from the
>>>   community.
>>>
>>> References:
>>> ------------
>>> * Discussions by the CRISP Team
>>>     Details of all the CRISP team's work to date, including recordings,
>>>     minutes and agendas of all the CRISP Team teleconferences and a
>>>     public archive of the internal CRISP team mailing list, are
>>>     available at:
>>>     https://nro.net/crisp-team
>>>
>>> * Other links:
>>>   - The ICG request for proposals:
>>>    <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en>
>>>
>>>   - The IANA Stewardship Transition Discussion in each RIR region:
>>>     <http://www.nro.net/timeline-engagement>
>>>
>>>   - First Draft proposal (Edited version)
>>>     <http://www.nro.net/crisp-proposal-first-draft-1-1>
>>>
>>>
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