[NRO-IANAXFER] Budget review?
dvburk at gmail.com
Tue Jan 13 00:58:44 CET 2015
for me it is strange to mention ICANN in this document.
It should just to define Numbers-related IANA function costs.
About contribution - it should be corellated to real costs.
FYI - It looks that some people know nothing what real activities we discuss.
Just a reminder about reality - ICANN (in my understanding) has 6-8 IANA functions related persons before (David Conrad can correct me - may be it was even less earlier) - now regarding newGTLD they have got about dozen - for all functions.
My personal estimation - to serve our function (as it now executed by ICANN) we need 0,5 FTE or less :)(RIPE NCC COO can tell exact number).
All others possible expenses it is just a cost of organization - now we donated for it more then 800k$ to ICANN.
We pay to support policy game - not IANA functions. It was propsed previously even to finance us as ASO activity even more from ICANN side as 2 mln $$ per year.
I think that these facts should not be ignored.
Excuse me that I am so late with my comments.
It is important - we need qualified personal - I really worry about current trend in current operator.
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> The CRISP Team would like to highlight that RIRs' contribution to ICANN
> and its fees to be paid as a part of the contract for the IANA operator
> should be treated and considered separately.
> Regarding the fees associated with the contract with the IANA operator
> on the number resources, the CRISP Team plans to describe basic
> principles about this, while not specifying a specific amount.
> Best Regards,
> Izumi Okutani
> The CRISP Team
> On 2015/01/12 18:33, Izumi Okutani wrote:
>> Thank you Seun for your question about Budget review and to John for
>> sharing the current situation.
>> This is being discussed within the CRISP Team.
>> Best Regards,
>> Izumi Okutani
>> The CRISP Team
>> On 2015/01/11 23:07, John Curran wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello Izumi, CRISP team
>>> I observed there is no section talking about budget review in the second draft. I understand 800k+USD is contributed annually to ICANN by all RIRs, may I know if ICANN presents annual budget specifically for this contribution? If yes who does the review? If no then I suggest it be incorporated in our proposal and I think it's something NRO NC can do (yeah yeah I know I may hear the policy vis operation separation thing again.... Sign. :-) )
>>> Sean -
>>> I have no position with respect to inclusion (or not) of budget review in the
>>> proposal. For information sake, I will note that presently the RIRs make
>>> a voluntary $823,000 contribution annually to ICANN. To the best of my
>>> knowledge, there is no budget specifically associated with that contribution,
>>> although the RIRs are invited to participate in ICANN���������s annual budget
>>> development process.
>>> Note also that, in addition to ICANN���������s role as the IANA operator, ICANN
>>> does have a declared mission which includes coordination of the Internet���������s
>>> systems of unique identifiers; i.e. via ICANN, the RIR community does gain
>>> some benefits from the ability to interact and coordinate with other parties
>>> on matters of mutual interest which may affect the Internet number registry
>>> system. An example of such coordination includes the presentation and
>>> discussions with ICANN���������s various constituencies, including ALAC, GAC,
>>> etc. Even if the RIR community were to seek another IANA operator at
>>> some future point, it would be necessary to review the benefits (unrelated
>>> to the IANA) from participating in ICANN, determine an appropriate path
>>> going forward and the appropriate level of contribution involved.
>>> I hope the above information aids in discussion of this topic,
>>> John Curran
>>> President and CEO
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