[NRO-IANAXFER] Budget review?

Burkov Dmitry dvburk at gmail.com
Tue Jan 13 00:58:44 CET 2015

Dear colleagues,

for me it is strange to mention ICANN in this document.

It should just to define Numbers-related IANA function costs.

About contribution - it should be corellated to real costs.

FYI - It looks that some people know nothing what real activities we discuss.
Just a reminder about reality - ICANN (in my understanding) has 6-8 IANA functions related persons before (David Conrad can correct me - may be it was even less earlier) - now regarding newGTLD they have got about dozen - for all functions.

My personal estimation - to serve our function (as it now executed by ICANN) we need 0,5 FTE  or less :)(RIPE NCC COO can tell exact number).
 All others possible expenses it is just a cost of organization - now we donated for it more then  800k$ to ICANN.

We pay to support policy game - not IANA functions. It was propsed previously even to finance us as ASO activity even more from ICANN side as 2 mln $$ per year.

I think that these facts should not be ignored.
Excuse me that I am so late with my comments.

It is important - we need qualified personal - I really worry about current trend in current operator.

> On Jan 12, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> The CRISP Team would like to highlight that RIRs' contribution to ICANN
> and its fees to be paid as a part of the contract for the IANA operator
> should be treated and considered separately.
> Regarding the fees associated with the contract with the IANA operator
> on the number resources, the CRISP Team plans to describe basic
> principles about this, while not specifying a specific amount.
> Best Regards,
> Izumi Okutani
> The CRISP Team
> On 2015/01/12 18:33, Izumi Okutani wrote:
>> Thank you Seun for your question about Budget review and to John for
>> sharing the current situation.
>> This is being discussed within the CRISP Team.
>> Best Regards,
>> Izumi Okutani
>> The CRISP Team
>> On 2015/01/11 23:07, John Curran wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello Izumi, CRISP team
>>> I observed there is no section talking about budget review in the second draft. I understand 800k+USD is contributed annually to ICANN by all RIRs, may I know if ICANN presents annual budget specifically for this contribution? If yes who does the review? If no then I suggest it be incorporated in our proposal and I think it's something NRO NC can do (yeah yeah I know I may hear the policy vis operation separation thing again.... Sign. :-) )
>>> Sean -
>>>    I have no position with respect to inclusion (or not) of budget review in the
>>>    proposal.   For information sake, I will note that presently the RIRs make
>>>    a voluntary $823,000 contribution annually to ICANN.  To the best of my
>>>    knowledge, there is no budget specifically associated with that contribution,
>>>    although the RIRs are invited to participate in  ICANN���������s annual budget
>>>    development process.
>>>    Note also that, in addition to ICANN���������s role as the IANA operator, ICANN
>>>    does have a declared mission which includes coordination of the Internet���������s
>>>    systems of unique identifiers; i.e. via ICANN, the RIR community does gain
>>>    some benefits from the ability to interact and coordinate with other parties
>>>    on matters of mutual interest which may affect the Internet number registry
>>>    system.   An example of such coordination includes the presentation and
>>>    discussions with ICANN���������s various constituencies, including ALAC, GAC,
>>>    etc.   Even if the RIR community were to seek another IANA operator at
>>>    some future point, it would be necessary to review the benefits (unrelated
>>>    to the IANA) from participating in ICANN, determine an appropriate path
>>>    going forward and the appropriate level of contribution involved.
>>> I hope the above information aids in discussion of this topic,
>>> /John
>>> John Curran
>>> President and CEO
>>> ARIN
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