[NRO-IANAXFER] Internet Number Community IANA StewardshipProposal: Final Call for Comments

Burkov Dmitry dvburk at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 08:11:18 CET 2015


Absolutely agree.

Dmitry
> On Jan 11, 2015, at 1:37 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
> 
> Regarding the question "it's not yet clear to me how or why a contract would be better than the current IANA-RIR arrangements or be an improvement once  NTIA oversight goes away", I would reply that the current proposal covers matters that are covered in the current IANA functions contract between ICANN and NTIA, but are not covered in the current IANA-RIR arrangements.
>  
> Best,
> Richard
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ianaxfer-bounces at nro.net [mailto:ianaxfer-bounces at nro.net]On Behalf Of Pindar Wong
>> Sent: samedi, 10. janvier 2015 23:34
>> To: Jim Reid
>> Cc: ianaxfer at nro.net
>> Subject: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] Internet Number Community IANA StewardshipProposal: Final Call for Comments
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com <mailto:jim at rfc1035.com>> wrote:
>>> On 10 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Hans Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net <mailto:hph at oslo.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On 09.01.15 21.01, Richard Hill wrote:
>>> >> I am saying (1) that the community should review and take a position on all
>>> >> of the language of the new contract and (2) that the details of the
>>> >> arbitration clause and the choice of law clause are sufficiently significant
>>> >> that they should be included in the current document.
>>> > This sounds ideal, but my guess is that the collective competnece of international contract law is slighty below our collective competence of IP-addressing, routing and network technology in general.
>>> 
>>> I agree. 
>>> 
>>> > The numbering community has established formal bodies to handle this, the RIR boards & management, which I trust will get appropriate legal advice.
>>> >
>>> > I trust these bodies will handle this in the best interest of our community.
>>> 
>>> Indeed. We have more than enough confidence in the RIRs' legal counsel to rely on their advice as and when it's needed. Or should do.
>>> 
>>> > The way I see your suggestions - arbitration is important to get right, but I do not see strong consensus  to micro manage this by the community at this stage.
>>> 
>>> +1
>> 
>> + 1 and Yes. I'd strongly recommend leaving it to the relevant people concerned (the formal legal staff, boards and management concerned -- it's in their interest to get devilish details right and they will hopefully do so without trying to out lawyer ICANN). 
>> 
>> Perhaps a fundamental question... but as time/expertise permits ... I would like a  response to Jim's earlier observation:
>> 
>> Emphasis mine:
>> 
>> 'FWIW it's not yet clear to me how or why a contract would be better than the current IANA-RIR arrangements or be an improvement once NTIA oversight goes away. '
>> 
>> Thanks in advance (and back to helping the kids with exam prep!)
>> 
>> p.
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