[NRO-IANAXFER] Biographical information for participation on the mailing list vs qualification of appointees to CRISP team

Andres Piazza andres at lacnic.net
Tue Oct 21 15:18:48 CEST 2014


John,

This is also what I understood.

Andres

El 21/10/14 21:57, John Curran escribió:
> Travis -
>      You are referring to qualification/selection process for CRISP 
> team appointees,
>      correct?   I believe this is this is quite distinct from Andres 
> suggestion that those
>      on the mailing list discussion take a moment to provide 
> biographical information
>      about their interest in the topic and participation on the list.
>
>      If I understand your proposal, you propose an algorithmic 
> selection process in
>      each region among qualified/non-conflicting volunteers (based on 
> dice or random
>      bit source)
>
>      Can you explain why this should be a hard requirement for all 
> CRISP team
>      appointees, rather than simply an approach that each region can 
> consider for
>      its selection process?
>
> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Travis Biehn <tbiehn at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:tbiehn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Andres,
>> Completely agree,
>> >From our chat on the ARIN list last week:
>>
>> I don't enjoy the idea of having any member of an RIR appoint the two 
>> non-staff appointees. I'd like to see that as a hard rule.
>>
>> To be fully unambiguous, I am proposing that NGO's CRISP be amended 
>> to include the following obligations and restrictions on appointees.
>>
>> All appointees:
>>
>> Must lodge their interest publicly. [On relevant publicly Read and 
>> Write mailing lists.]
>> Must identify themselves and demonstrate that they are physically and 
>> spiritually [demonstrate non-trivial ties] part of the RIR that 
>> serves them and they intend to represent.
>> Must disclose all organizations, clubs and boards which they are 
>> members of. This is meant to include current and past employers for 
>> the past 5 years.
>> Must substantiate their qualifications and how they are able to 
>> dedicate the time and effort requisite of establishing a solution 
>> fitting the global communities best interest. [On an hour / day, week 
>> basis.]
>>
>> There is some verification of facts performed here.
>>
>> A dice is rolled, if the selected appointee overlaps in employment or 
>> membership (that is - a potential for the perception of cronyism is 
>> identified) in any way with an existing appointee they are 
>> disqualified. (A dice roll can here be substituted with some publicly 
>> verifiable source of random bits...)
>>
>> -Travis
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:39 PM, "Andres Piazza" <andres at lacnic.net 
>> <mailto:andres at lacnic.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     It ocurrs to me that it would be a good idea to allow
>>     participation for anybody who is interested in the discussion but
>>     requesting them to make available to the rest of the members of
>>     list several basic information such as:
>>
>>     - Full (real) name.
>>     - Country.
>>     - Affiliation.
>>     - Stakeholder Group.
>>
>>     My 2 cents,
>>
>>     Andres Piazza
>>     Public Affairs Officer
>>     LACNIC
>>
>

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