[CRISP-TEAM] Additional draft ver.3 until 2/8 Re: Draft announcement (- 2/5): The future of the CRISP Team role

奥谷 泉 izumiokutani at yahoo.co.jp
Sat Feb 6 01:45:58 CET 2016 

Thank you Michael. This is a new yet another good point to clarify.

What is our role in auditing and how long should it last? Which links to the second point, on when should the CRISP Team activities should be complete.

On the first question, my take on it is that based on the role we will be taking in IPR coordination as well as the text in the announcement describing our general activities, is that we audit to ensure implementation of the Number Resources component would be consistent with the number community proposal. On the second question, I referred to our charter about the completion of our work. 


It is quite possible that the implementation work continues beyond the ICG submission of the proposal/ICANN submitting the proposal to NTIA. What I attempted to clarify is whether we completely stop all work beyond this submission, or whether we remain as an auditor role (with lower activity level), to share our observation on key points of the implementation of SLA, Review Committee, and IPR, until the transition is completed. 


My understanding is the latter, but that's just one opinion as a CRISP Team member. I welcome to hear comments from others.

Since this is a new point and related the core point about our role/completion of work, I suggest another round of comments until UTC23:59 Monday 8th Sep.



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Dear Colleagues,



We are pleased to inform you that
 the CRISP Team has handed over the responsibility to the RIRs, on 
preparing implementation for IPR related to the provision of the IANA 
services.

The three operational communities are now at the phase 
of preparing implementation, based on the consensus the IETF Trust to be
 the entity to hold the ownership of "the IANA trademark" and "the 
IANA.ORG domain".
Further, the three operational communities are 
undertaking coordination towards the implementation work between now and
 September, through the IPR coordination group with leaders from each 
operational communities.

The CRISP team takes on an observer role
 in this group, to ensure consistency with the proposal, and continue to
 make itself available to answer questions or provide clarifications as 
needed. 
Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno will represent the CRISP team in this group.

The public read-only archives of its mailing list are available at: https://www.nro.net/pipermail/iana-ipr/

With
 this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to the RIRs, we no 
longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team, and our role now 
transitions into an auditor role, until implementation of the IANA stewardship transition is completed.
The CRISP Team continues to remain 
available to provide answers, advice and clarifications about the 
proposal as needed in the IANA stewardship transition process, and to help ensure that the 
implementation of the number resources component of the transition, such as the SLA on IANA Numbering Services, Review Committee and IPR related to the provision of the IANA services, is consistent with the number community's proposal. 

This
 transition of our role is based on the CRISP Team Charter, which describes our role as :"The CRISP team will have completed its work upon the ICG transmission of
 the combined IANA Stewardship Transition proposal to ICANN, but will 
continue to be available to answer any relevant questions about the 
number community’s proposal from any interested party, until the 
completion of the IANA Stewardship transition."

Until the end of our work based on the CRISP Team Charter,  we 
continue conducting calls on needs basis with schedule published on the 
NRO's CRISP Team website.


CRISP Team Charter
https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team

CRISP Team teleconferences
https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/crisp-team-process-and-archive


We thank the number resources community for the inputs you have given us throughout the process, and we are open to questions you may have on this transition in our role.



Best Regards,

Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno
The Chair and the Vice Chair, the CRISP Team
-----

Izumi



----- Original Message -----
>From: Michael Abejuela <mabejuela at arin.net>
>To: John Sweeting <john.sweeting at twcable.com>; Nurani Nimpuno <nurani at netnod.se> 
>Cc: "crisp at nro.net" <crisp at nro.net>
>Date: 2016/2/6, Sat 01:52
>Subject: Re: [CRISP-TEAM] Draft announcement (- 2/5): The future of the CRISP Team role
> 
>Thank you all for this draft, it looks like a great message to send to the
>community.  I did have one item to raise regarding scope and avoiding
>confusion to the community on the CRISP team role and the duration of the
>CRISP team itself:
>
>Current text:  "With this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to
>the RIRs, we no longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team, and our
>role now transitions into an auditor role.²
>
>
>The reference to an ³auditor role² is the one I think might need clarity.
>Perhaps if we say ³Šinto an auditor role until the IANA stewardship plan
>is submitted² or ³Šinto an auditor role until the IANA stewardship plan is
>approved.² I think the former is more appropriate and doesn¹t overlap the
>ICG, but the latter may work as well if people feel strongly on that text.
>
>Just want to be clear on the scope and end time of the CRISP team¹s work
>and also to avoid any confusion with regard to the Review Committee.
>Auditor role without a qualifier might sound like the work with which the
>Review Committee would be charged, so perhaps with the suggested text, we
>avoid any confusion.  Further, while I have immensely enjoyed working with
>this great group of people on the team and could work with all of you
>indefinitely, I think it is best to have a clear expectation on when the
>CRISP team¹s work is final and ends.
>
>Thanks!
>-Michael
>
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>On 2/5/16, 8:31 AM, "crisp-bounces at nro.net on behalf of Sweeting, John"
><crisp-bounces at nro.net on behalf of john.sweeting at twcable.com> wrote:
>
>>Agree with all points below
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Nurani Nimpuno <nurani at netnod.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Izumi and all,
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 5 feb 2016, at 11:11, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who have expressed support for the text - Paul, Mwendwa,
>>>>John, Andrei and Janvier.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Janvier for your two suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Text addition of "unless you advice otherwise":
>>>> This raises a very good question on how open we can/should be on input
>>>>from the community on our role.
>>>>
>>>> - I wasn't sure if we have room to leave the possibility open for
>>>>discussions about our role with the community (as our role is described
>>>>in the Charter).
>>>> - But it is a good point to provide better clarity so ;
>>>>  I replaced it for now by addition reference to the CRISP Team Charter
>>>>at the end, as a reference point of our decision
>>>> - To avoid sounding like a once sided notice, expressed our thanks to
>>>>the community and to remain open to questions about the transition in
>>>>our role
>>>>
>>>> Does this work? I would like to also hear what others in the CRISP
>>>>Team think about it as well.
>>>
>>> This is a good way of clarifying this point. Thanks Izumi!
>>>
>>>> 2) The change in frequency of the calls
>>>>
>>>> It may still change on needs basis (may not be once a month), and
>>>>would be good to remain flexible.
>>>> I therefore added a pointer to the CRISP Team call page:
>>>>https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/crisp-tea
>>>>m-process-and-archive
>>>
>>> Yes that makes sense. So we will set a monthly regular call that we can
>>>publish. Before each call, we will assess the need, and we can always
>>>cancel it if there¹s nothing to report or discuss.
>>>
>>> German,
>>>
>>> Could I ask you to circulate a schedule with the upcoming monthly calls
>>>between now and September?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>> Since they are changes from the previous version I shared, I'd like to
>>>>extend more time for comments, until UTC2200 today (5th Feb).
>>>
>>> Yes, all ok with me.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nurani
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Izumi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are pleased to inform you that the CRISP Team has handed over the
>>>>responsibility to the RIRs, on preparing implementation for IPR related
>>>>to the provision of the IANA services.
>>>>
>>>> The three operational communities are now at the phase of preparing
>>>>implementation, based on the consensus the IETF Trust to be the entity
>>>>to hold the ownership of "the IANA trademark" and "the IANA.ORG domain".
>>>> Further, the three operational communities are undertaking
>>>>coordination towards the implementation work between now and September,
>>>>through the IPR coordination group with leaders from each operational
>>>>communities.
>>>>
>>>> The CRISP team takes on an observer role in this group, to ensure
>>>>consistency with the proposal, and continue to make itself available to
>>>>answer questions or provide clarifications as needed.
>>>> Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno will represent the CRISP team in this
>>>>group.
>>>>
>>>> The public read-only archives of its mailing list are available at:
>>>>https://www.nro.net/pipermail/iana-ipr/
>>>>
>>>> With this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to the RIRs, we
>>>>no longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team, and our role now
>>>>transitions into an auditor role.
>>>> The CRISP Team continues to remain available to provide answers,
>>>>advice and clarifications about the proposal as needed in the process,
>>>>and to help ensure that the implementation is consistent with the
>>>>number community's proposal.
>>>>
>>>> This transition of our role is based on the CRISP Team Charter, and we
>>>>continue conducting calls on needs basis with schedule published on the
>>>>NRO's CRISP Team website.
>>>> We thank the number resources community for the inputs you have given
>>>>us throughout the process, and we are open to questions you may have on
>>>>this transition in our role.
>>>>
>>>> CRISP Team Charter
>>>> 
>>>>https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolida
>>>>ted-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team
>>>>
>>>> CRISP Team teleconferences
>>>> 
>>>>https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/crisp-tea
>>>>m-process-and-archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno
>>>> The Chair and the Vice Chair, the CRISP Team
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016/02/05 0:24, Janvier Noulaye wrote:
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> It's clear that the work of the CRISP team, representing the Numbers
>>>>> Community is done.
>>>>> It's wonderful to come back to that Community to say WE HAVE DONE
>>>>>with that
>>>>> announcement drafted by Nurani & Izumi. I support it.
>>>>> I extend once again my thanks to Nurani & Izumi for the very good
>>>>> leadership, and to the other CRISP members for the sustained inputs
>>>>>on work
>>>>> everytime.
>>>>> But If you don't mind, I suggest the small following changes in  the
>>>>> sentence:
>>>>> "With this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to the RIRs,
>>>>>we no
>>>>> longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team, and our role now
>>>>> transitions into an auditor role."
>>>>> to be replace by :
>>>>> "With this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to the RIRs,
>>>>>we
>>>>> think that we  no longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team,
>>>>>unless
>>>>> you advice otherwise, and our role now transitions into an auditor
>>>>>role.
>>>>> We  scale back thus our regular conferences calls to once a month."
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>> Janvier Ngnoulaye,PhD
>>>>> Yaounde - Cameroon
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-02-04 2:19 GMT+01:00 Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> CRISP Team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is the draft announcement Nurani and I would like to send to
>>>>>>the
>>>>>> global ianaxfer list on the future of the CRISP role on IPR and in
>>>>>>general.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The contents are based the confirmation Nurani has sent - many
>>>>>>thanks for
>>>>>> your feedback and explicit support!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is planned to be send out at Fri 5th Feb UTC0900, and welcome
>>>>>>your
>>>>>> feedback before this, if you have any suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Nurani & Izumi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are pleased to inform you that the CRISP Team has handed over the
>>>>>> responsibility to the RIRs, on preparing implementation for IPR
>>>>>>related to
>>>>>> the provision of the IANA services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The three operational communities are now at the phase of preparing
>>>>>> implementation, based on the consensus the IETF Trust to be the
>>>>>>entity to
>>>>>> hold the ownership of "the IANA trademark" and "the IANA.ORG domain".
>>>>>> Further, the three operational communities are undertaking
>>>>>>coordination
>>>>>> towards the implementation work between now and September, through
>>>>>>the IPR
>>>>>> coordination group with leaders from each operational communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The CRISP team takes on an observer role in this group, to ensure
>>>>>> consistency with the proposal, and continue to make itself available
>>>>>>to
>>>>>> answer questions or provide clarifications as needed.
>>>>>> Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno will represent the CRISP team in
>>>>>>this
>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The public read-only archives of its mailing list are available at:
>>>>>> https://www.nro.net/pipermail/iana-ipr/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With this formal handover in the implementation of IPR to the RIRs,
>>>>>>we no
>>>>>> longer have specific actions as the CRISP Team, and our role now
>>>>>> transitions into an auditor role.
>>>>>> The CRISP Team continues to remain available to provide answers,
>>>>>>advice
>>>>>> and clarifications about the proposal as needed in the process, and
>>>>>>to help
>>>>>> ensure that the implementation is consistent with the number
>>>>>>community¹s
>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno
>>>>>> The Chair and the Vice Chair, the CRISP Team
>>>>>> -----
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