[CRISP-TEAM] Status update

Michael Abejuela mabejuela at arin.net
Thu Jan 15 20:18:39 CET 2015

Thank you Bill for all the work on this. Freezing and finalizing, I will
wait for the Version 8 circulation and then happy to take the pen from
there and coordinate with you directly on any outstanding issues. I
anticipate any other comments or edits will be purely editorial (being
optimistic! :) ) but will wait and see for finalization.


Michael R. Abejuela
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On 1/15/15, 2:04 PM, "Bill Woodcock" <woody at pch.net> wrote:

>> Are any of those issues still outstanding now?
>I wish the answer to that were clearer, but I think it¹s high time we
>closed version 8, so I¹m going to just be all optimistic and say ³yes."
>>> - The glossary is long, probably too long to go at the top of the
>>>document, and contains as-yet undefined items.
>> I think we agreed to omit anything that doesn't yet have a definition,
>>move it to an appendix, and add a note at the top telling people about
>>the appendix.  I haven't seen a proposal for the exact text at the top..
>>> - The rampant variations of open/transparent/bottoms-up need to be
>> We agreed on "open, transparent, and bottom-up².
>>> - Whether or not to include the reference to Bermuda is (I think)
>>>waiting on a reply from Andrei.
>> I think he replied.  Omit the reference to Bermuda or ICC rules in
>>> - The intellectual property issue is waiting on specific text, though
>>>everybody is expressing goodwill about it.
>> I sent a message with a copy of the agreed text.
>Andrei¹s was the last change (as I detailed in a separate email).  Can
>you tell me whether you¹re okay with Andrei¹s text, or if you¹re
>proposing separate text that I should go looking through your mail for?
>>> - There was text about the RIRs serving the Internet Number Community
>>>that Paul and Nurani objected to but didn¹t suggest an alternative.
>> Nurani sent a copy of the agreed text.
>Yes, well, you all keep asserting agreement, and then sending me
>different things.  I¹ve cobbled together a compromise between your
>various suggestions, with typo and punctuation correction, that¹s in
>there now, that I hope will prove sufficient.
>>> - There was a sentence about a third-party holder of IP that Paul
>>>wanted simplified, I proposed an alternative, haven¹t heard back from
>>>anyone. Haven¹t checked to see if it clobbers the other IP issue or
>>>vice-versa yet.
>> Nurani sent a copy of Paul's text.  I replied to your suggestion.
>UhŠ  Dammit.  I updated it with the text you sent, "Future transitions
>will be smoother if intellectual property assets are held by an
>organization that is not the IANA Numbering Services Operator.²  This was
>between you and Paul.  I¹ll assume that what¹s there is good enough, and
>that Paul won¹t object too much if we move forward with it.  Rather than
>trying to figure out which of Nurani¹s emails has that in it.
>> Dr. Govind¹s name
>>> - Alan suggested text ³elect individuals to the governing board² but
>>>didn¹t specify where it should go.
>> As I said last time you asked this, there's a sentence in II.B.3.ii
>>that says "members have the right to vote individuals onto the governing
>>board".  I suggest to change that to "members have the right to elect
>>individuals to the governing board".  Essentially "vote onto" -> "elect².
>Oh, right, sorry.  Hadn¹t checked it off as completed.
>Okay.  Thank you, Izumi, for freeing changes.  I¹m going to take that as
>an absolute, and close version 8, and produce new clean and redlines now,
>and send them to the list.  Expect them in a couple of minutes.  Then
>I¹ll coordinate with Michael to pass the pen and whatever ambiguity
>remains in the above issues.
>I¹m just going to be optimistic again, and say that there are NO
>ADDITIONAL OUTSTANDING ISSUES that are not mentioned in this email.  I
>hope you can all live with that.
>                                -Bill

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