[CRISP-TEAM] Possible inconsinstency pointed out on IRP for Section III A2 and IIIA3

[Izumi Okutani]

Great. Thanks Paul and understood the status.

That just reminded me - you are in a different timezone from Europe ;)


Izumi

On 2015/01/14 15:21, Paul Rendek wrote:
> Hey Izumi,
> 
> Thanks for this and I agree with you and others  on the points below. I
> am currently going through the text from Paul Wilson as well as the
> section III.A.3 and will provide my input to the list shortly. I am jsut
> waiting for Europe to wake up and we'll hit this ;-P
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 1/14/15 5:54 AM, Izumi Okutani wrote:
>> I think there is an agreement the text needs to be improved for
>> consistency on IPR.
>>
>> Thank you Andrei for categorizing each elements and Alan for pointing
>> out specific inconnsistencies. Very helpful.
>>
>>
>> Paul/Nurani, I wonder if you could help revise text to reflect the
>> points below for IIIA3ix?
>>
>> We can ask others to help if needed but I feel it may be better for you
>> to control the overall text on this part.
>>
>> To Alan's point -
>>
>>>>> I think we would like some IPR to be vested in neutral organisations,
>>>>> and some IPR to be in the public domain.  Section III.A.3.ix seems to me
>>>>> to be talking about the part that should be in the puiblic domain
>>>>> (almosst everything except the trademank and domain name), but it could
>>>>> be worded more clearly.
>> Agree.
>>
>>>>> Also, III.A.3.ix talks about "public domain or the RIRs", while III.A.2
>>>>> does not have "or the RIRs".  They should be consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did "or the RIRs" come from?  I seem to recall discussions about
>>>>> the public domain.
>> I also don't recall our consensus on RIRs either.
>> My understanding is the same as Alan's.
>>
>> Let's confirm at the call today but feedback on the ML beforehand is
>> welcome.
>>
>> On 2015/01/14 1:55, Paul Rendek wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree. Well spotted Alan and thanks Andrei for actually listing
>>> these. It makes it much clearer.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/13/15 4:32 PM, Andrei Robachevsky wrote:
>>>> Agree.
>>>>
>>>> I think confusion comes from the fact that we are talking about 3
>>>> differrent things and perhaps do not articulating this sufficiently:
>>>>
>>>> - IANA trademark and IANA.ORG domain  -> IETF Trust
>>>> - public number resource registries -> public domain
>>>> - Any future intellectual property rights -> public domain or RIRs
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the third one, I think it depends on the nature of the IPRs,
>>>> we may as well include the IETF Trust as a potential destination.
>>>>
>>>> Andrei
>>>>
>>>> Alan Barrett wrote on 13/01/15 17:07:
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Izumi Okutani wrote:
>>>>>> These is a highlighting the texts related to IRP where confirmation
>>>>>> about possible inconsistency expressed on the IANAXFER list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do any of you think we need to improve any part of the text to make it
>>>>>> sound less inconsistent?
>>>>> Yes, I think we could improve the text.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we would like some IPR to be vested in neutral organisations,
>>>>> and some IPR to be in the public domain.  Section III.A.3.ix seems to me
>>>>> to be talking about the part that should be in the puiblic domain
>>>>> (almosst everything except the trademank and domain name), but it could
>>>>> be worded more clearly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, III.A.3.ix talks about "public domain or the RIRs", while III.A.2
>>>>> does not have "or the RIRs".  They should be consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did "or the RIRs" come from?  I seem to recall discussions about
>>>>> the public domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> --apb (Alan Barrett)
>>>>>
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