[CRISP-TEAM] Draft response/position: IANA IPR issues

[Izumi Okutani]

Just as a recap of the 6th call -

 * No objections expressed to Andrei's summary, including intellectual
   property rights of IANA.ORG is to be held by the IETF
 * Andrei to communicate on the IANAXFER list based on the summary and
   see whether there are no concerns about this direction
 * Andrei to share the draft proposed text to reflect in the proposal
   to ICG


Izumi


On 2014/12/31 17:10, Izumi Okutani wrote:
> Many thanks for the summary Andrei. This is helpful in understanding the
> rationale, breaking down per points.
> 
>> The logic I captured from the ianaxfer discussions, which is also
>> consistent with my own understanding, is:
>> - It seems to be important that IANA.ORG and the IANA TM are tied to the
>> IANA function and should be transferred if the function moves to another
>> operator;
>> - Since all operational communities are making own arrangements
>> regarding the IANA functions operator it is conceivable that in the
>> future multiple IANA operators will exist. For instance the RIRs may
>> decide to move away from ICANN to another entity for the IANA number
>> function, and the IETF and number community make different choices. In
>> this case a sensible approach would be to transfer these assets as part
>> of the current process to an entity, which is separate from the IANA
>> function operator.
> 
> This makes sense to me. I welcome comments from CRISP Team on any other
> thoughts.
> 
> 
>> - If we want to avoid creating new structures and also "consistent with
>> the history of the use of the IANA name" (Richard Hill), the IETF Trust
>> seems to be the best choice for this role.
>> Richard also responded on the ianaxfer list:
>>
>>> Yes, and if the intellectual property rights are held by the IETF
> Trust, that would allow the operational entities to use the marks and
> the domain name as appropriate for the IANA functions.  By "operational
> entities" I mean the entities which perform one or more parts of the
> IANA funciton under delegation from the communities that have policy
> authority for one or more parts of the IANA function.
>>
> 
> Thank you Andrei for comfirming this point with Richard Hill.
> I'll put this point to be confirmed at the CRISP Team call on 2nd Jan.
> 
> Izumi
> 
> 
> On 2014/12/30 18:30, Andrei Robachevsky wrote:
>> Izumi, colleagues,
>>
>> Izumi Okutani wrote on 29/12/14 18:57:
>>> Thank you Andrei in drafing the three points on intelletual property
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> This lookes like a good start to make the text consistent with IETF's
>>> proposal while I welcome any other inputs from CRISP Team.
>>>
>>> One point I'd like to understand is :
>>>
>>>> The IETF Trust
>>>> (http://trustee.ietf.org/index.html) is the preference of the RIR
>>>> communities."
>>>
>>> The rationale for RIR communities to prefer the IETF Trust.
>>> (I don't have an issue and simply would like to be clear why we propose
>>>    this)
>>
>> The logic I captured from the ianaxfer discussions, which is also
>> consistent with my own understanding, is:
>> - It seems to be important that IANA.ORG and the IANA TM are tied to the
>> IANA function and should be transferred if the function moves to another
>> operator;
>> - Since all operational communities are making own arrangements
>> regarding the IANA functions operator it is conceivable that in the
>> future multiple IANA operators will exist. For instance the RIRs may
>> decide to move away from ICANN to another entity for the IANA number
>> function, and the IETF and number community make different choices. In
>> this case a sensible approach would be to transfer these assets as part
>> of the current process to an entity, which is separate from the IANA
>> function operator.
>> - If we want to avoid creating new structures and also "consistent with
>> the history of the use of the IANA name" (Richard Hill), the IETF Trust
>> seems to be the best choice for this role.
>>
>> Richard also responded on the ianaxfer list:
>>
>>> Yes, and if the intellectual property rights are held by the IETF Trust, that would allow the operational entities to use the marks and the domain name as appropriate for the IANA functions.  By "operational entities" I mean the entities which perform one or more parts of the IANA funciton under delegation from the communities that have policy authority for one or more parts of the IANA function.
>>>    
>>
>> I asked him to clarify this statement.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>>
>