[CRISP-TEAM] The CRISP Team Response to "Process concern regarding the RIR proposal development process "

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Wed Feb 4 20:43:25 CET 2015

Dear ICG members,

On 20 January 2015 Richard Hill wrote to the icg-forum list with a
number of concerns about the CRISP team process.


The concerns expressed by Mr Hill were considered in depth during the
CRISP team proposal development process and had been discussed on the
ianaxfer mailing list with Mr Hill as well as other community members.

The positions taken by the CRISP team was based on the consensus
position of the community.

Richard Hill wrote:

> Certain legal questions were raised in discussions on the CRISP
mailing list
> (NRO IANAXFER), in particular regarding jurisdiction and dispute
> The CRISP team apparently did not include anybody who had appropriate
> expertise and it chose not to request outside legal expertise, see:
> https://www.nro.net/pipermail/ianaxfer/2015-January/000322.html

Mr Hill’s objections to the position adopted by the CRISP team were well
documented in his emails to the ianaxfer mailing list, and were
discussed at length on the CRISP teleconferences (notes and audio
archives of these calls are available at https://nro.net/crisp-team).
Additionally, they were included in the CRISP team’s matrix of community
comments and concerns posted at:

The CRISP team’s final position is effectively summarised in the text of
our response to the ICG RFP:

“The RIRs, as the contractual party of this agreement, will draft the
specific language of this agreement. During the drafting process, the
RIRs are expected to consult their respective RIR communities, and that
the drafting process will be guided by the principles listed below.”
[Response to the ICG RFP on the IANA from the Internet Number Community,

The RFP response then lists 11 IANA Service Level Agreement Principles.
This was based on taking into account of feedback on the ianaxfer
mailing list, to bring the proposal back to describing high level

The CRISP team’s position took into account the concerns raised by Mr
Hill, and addressed some points he has raised, such as describing in the
proposal that RIRs are expected to consult their respective RIR
communities, as quoted earlier.

The CRISP Team was also informed by other feedback received via the
ianaxfer mailing list, particularly those mails which explicitly
supported the approach of delegating contract authorship to the RIR
legal teams. Posts by Hans Petter Holen (7 Jan,10 Jan) Seun Ojedeji (7
Jan) Gerard Ross (11 January), Jim Reid (12 January), Andrew Dul (12
January) and Dmitry Burkov (13 January) specifically endorsed this view.
All of these mails can be read at:

A further concern noted by Mr Hill:
> That is, how can NTIA be expected to approve a proposal when important
> details are left open and have not been reviewed or endorsed by the global
> multi-stakeholder community?

The CRISP team has crafted a proposal that reflects the value that the
community places on the number-related IANA functions. This is reflected
in the proposal to safeguard the RIR communities’ stewardship over these
functions via a contractual relationship. It is the responsibility of
the parties to a contract to negotiate a contract. The CRISP team
believes that by directing the RIRs to consult with their communities
and by laying down the principles mentioned above, we have established a
framework within which the RIR legal staff can effectively negotiate in
the best interests of the community.

Finally, Mr Hill has expressed that "there was limited input and the
outcome was largely influenced by the CRISP team and the RIR staff”. As
noted above, there were numerous posts to the ianaxfer mailing list,
many of which touched specifically on the issues discussed by Mr Hill.
>From 17 October 2014 to 29 January 2015 there were 372 mails to the
ianaxfer list and 134 subscribers - information on the list is available
at: https://www.nro.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer

I hope that this is a useful explanation of the CRISP team’s position in
regard to the issues raised by Mr Hill. I am of course happy to discuss
any of these issues in greater depth if this would be helpful.

Yours sincerely,

Izumi Okutani
Chair, the CRISP Team

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