[CRISP-TEAM] Fwd: Re: Invitation to a panel discussion with the ICANN Board on 25 April

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Wed Apr 22 17:01:45 CEST 2015 

Thank you Mwendwa. Good points to clarify.

> Just a slight clarification, Since the CRISP team already presented it's
> proposal to ICG, and NRO have started drafting the SLA, can we safely say
> that these meetings will not affect the content of the CRISP proposal in
> any way?

It shouldn't affect the proposal we have submitted to the ICG in anyway.
The idea is to exchange information and not to agree on something.

> Were you also joining the call with one other person from the CRISP team?

No, Alex Pawlik will join the call as NRO EC Chair from the numbers but no one else from the CRISP Team.

I would have liked to have one more person from the CRISP Team to join, say Nurani as the Vice Chair. Then again this is a panel planned by ICANN and if we suggest to add one more from the CRISP Team, I imagine other communities would want to add one more person as well and grows the number, so I find it a little too much if I suggest this. 

This is why I put the agenda for ICANN Board panel on the agenda for the CRISP Team call, so I can confirm how the team think about certain issues before the panel.
I believe the video will be published and anybody will be able to see.

Does this make things a little more clear?
I'd be happy to clarify if you have anything you wish to clarify/concerns you'd like to share, so please let me know if you do.


Izumi


On 2015/04/22 22:31, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote:
> Thank you Izumi,
> Just a slight clarification, Since the CRISP team already presented it's
> proposal to ICG, and NRO have started drafting the SLA, can we safely say
> that these meetings will not affect the content of the CRISP proposal in
> any way?
> 
> Were you also joining the call with one other person from the CRISP team?
> 
> Regards
> 
> ______________________
> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
> 
> "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on
> higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
> 
> 
> On 22 April 2015 at 14:09, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> 
>> CRISP Team,
>>
>>
>> FYI, please see the e-mail below  on the topics of discussions for panel
>> discussions with the ICANN Board on 25 April.
>> This is the panel I had update that I will be joining in my e-mail
>> yesterday: https://www.nro.net/pipermail/crisp/2015-April/001768.html
>>
>> There are a number of issues I would like to discuss with you on how we
>> consider the issues listed.
>> Jari has made an excellent suggestion for discussions topic about the gap
>> between traditional bargaining politics and open community process.
>> Seperate from the jurisdiction, there are discussions in ICANN
>> Accoutability CCWG about adding a clause in the ByLaws to be incorporated
>> from the AoC, for ICANN to remain its headquoter in the US.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest the ICANN Board panel as one of the agenda items for
>> the coming CRISP Team call.
>>
>>
>> Izumi
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Invitation to a panel discussion with the ICANN Board on 25
>> April
>> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 03:08:52 +0000
>> From: Theresa Swinehart
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Thank you for the emails and suggestions. We thought it may be better to
>> just have one panel, rather than try to have two. And having this panel
>> focus on the range of topics already flagged on this list.
>>
>> We are looking at the time-slot of 8:30-10:00 AM US Pacific (15:30-17:00
>> UTC). The IT team is looking at the logistics, but video connection should
>> work whether Skype or other. More on that shortly.
>>
>> Michelle, can you send out the calendar invite?
>>
>> On topics, those provided in Izumi's note and Jari's points are good -
>> capturing them here -
>> - jurisdiction,
>> - impact of postponing submission date to the NTIA,
>> - ICANN-IANA function operator superagility, etc.
>>
>> - mismatch between traditional bargaining politics in the cabinets and open
>> community processes.
>>
>> To Izumi's question - as the operational community proposals are
>> understood, seems this is an opportunity for short overview of key
>> elements, but more time on themes relevant to moving to the next phase of
>> the transition.
>>
>> I've added Sally onto this exchange as she's kindly agreed to moderate the
>> panel.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>> On 4/21/15 2:40 PM, "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko at piuha.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Izumi���������s questions were good. FWIW, I think one
>>> of the political issues that we should consider is the mismatch
>>> between traditional bargaining politics in the cabinets and open
>>> community processes. Once you have gone open, it is difficult
>>> to come back��������� nor should we.
>>>
>>> Jari
>>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 12:59, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Assuming for now that both panel 3 and 4 will be covered by the same
>>>> members, I have some questions on the topic for the panel discussions.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a particular aspect(s) of the political issues you have in
>>>> mind to cover for Panel 3?
>>>> e.g. jurisdiction, impact of postponing submission date to the NTIA,
>>>> ICANN-IANA function operator superagility, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I have a similar question for Panel 4 - whether there is a particular
>>>> point(s) ICANN Board would like to focus on the community panel, or it
>>>> is expected for each community to share the current status (which is no
>>>> change in the proposal for the numbers, working on implementation).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Izumi
>>>>
>>>> On 2015/04/17 21:04, Theresa Swinehart wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> To follow-on on Steve's note, thank you for your quick responses back,
>>>>> and
>>>>> for joining! We'll follow-up shortly on additional logistical
>>>>> information on
>>>>> video connection/IT approach to the session. I'll also follow-up with
>>>>> any
>>>>> other preparations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vinciane, Michelle, please have a calendar invite sent out to this
>>>>> group for
>>>>> the suggested time slot for the 25th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all ���������
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Theresa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From:  Byron Holland <byron.holland at cira.ca>
>>>>> Date:  Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:17 PM
>>>>> To:  "steve at shinkuro.com" <steve at shinkuro.com>, Jari Arkko
>>>>> <jari.arkko at piuha.net>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>, Axel
>>>>> Pawlik <axel.pawlik at ripe.net>, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp>,
>>>>> "<jrobinson at afilias.info>" <jrobinson at afilias.info>
>>>>> Cc:  "steve at shinkuro.com" <steve at shinkuro.com>, Vinciane Koenigsfeld
>>>>> <vinciane.koenigsfeld at icann.org>, Michelle Bright
>>>>> <michelle.bright at icann.org>, Theresa Swinehart
>>>>> <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>
>>>>> Subject:  Re: Invitation to a panel discussion with the ICANN Board on
>>>>> 25
>>>>> April
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> I could make it and am flexible in the time slot you have provided.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Byron
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the TELUS network.
>>>>> From: Steve Crocker
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:10 PM
>>>>> To: Jari Arkko; Andrew Sullivan; Axel Pawlik (axel.pawlik at ripe.net);
>>>>> izumi at nic.ad.jp; Byron Holland; <jrobinson at afilias.info>
>>>>> Cc: Stephen D. Crocker; Vinciane Koenigsfeld; Michelle Bright; Theresa
>>>>> Swinehart
>>>>> Subject: Invitation to a panel discussion with the ICANN Board on 25
>>>>> April
>>>>>
>>>>> Jari, Andrew, Axel, Izumi, Byron, Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this note finds you well.  I want  to invite you to join us for
>>>>> a
>>>>> video panel and brainstorming session during our upcoming ICANN Board
>>>>> Workshop on Saturday, April 25.  The subject is, of course, IANA
>>>>> Stewardship
>>>>> Transition.  For this session we'd like to have 2 moderated video
>>>>> panels to
>>>>> discuss and share views on both the political and community themes
>>>>> around
>>>>> the transition, with the following agenda:
>>>>> 1. Opening (Steve Crocker)
>>>>> 2. Overview of the transition
>>>>> 3. Panel to discuss the political issues around the transition
>>>>> 4. Panel of leadership representation from the IETF/IAB, RIR/CRISP,
>>>>> CCNSO
>>>>> and GNSO
>>>>> 5. Discussion (all)
>>>>> The panel addressing political issues would be encouraged to stay for
>>>>> the
>>>>> community panel, and likewise the community panel is invited to
>>>>> participate
>>>>> in the discussions following the political panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The timing on the 25th would be a 1 hour window between 1530 UTC -1730
>>>>> UTC
>>>>> (8.30���������10.30 US Pacific time). We have some flexibility to adjust the
>>>>> time if
>>>>> needed to accommodate panelist schedules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be available to join for this session?  We'd welcome an open
>>>>> dialogue to share views, and thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know if there's a period in the window of 1530 ��������� 1730
>>>>> UTC that
>>>>> works better for you, and we'll aim to adjust the schedule accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards and thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Crocker
>>>>> Chairman, ICANN Board
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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