[CRISP-TEAM] Related to Review Committee Fwd: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they differ?

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Mon Dec 29 00:33:26 CET 2014

Thanks Mwendwa for sharing your position.
Anyone else who have opinions?

I think it's important for us to have the rationale, if we disagree with
the suggestion to have NRO NC to conduct the review.


On 2014/12/29 2:38, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote:
> I had made similar suggestions, although I don't have a strong feeling about it.
> I think the team was unequivocal that we need to separate policy
> development with monitoring.
> On 25/12/2014, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>> CRISP Team,
>> This thread looks to me like another comment related to Review Committee.
>> Seun suggests NRO NC to conduct the review, to make use of existing
>> mechanisms. He also asks the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC would
>> not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at community
>> level.
>> How shall we consider his feeback to have NRO NC to take this role?
>>   - Do you agree to have NRO NC to conduct the review as suggested, to
>>     make use of the exising mechanisms? or
>>   - Do you think we should seperate the roles of bodies which provides
>>     policy advice and reviews service level of the operation?
>> What do you think?
>> Izumi
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they
>> differ?
>> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:26:14 +0100
>> From: Hans Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net>
>> To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "ianaxfer at nro.net"
>> <ianaxfer at nro.net>
>> I do support the point of using existing structures and not create new.
>> As far as I can remember this was the clear consensus at the last RIPE
>> meeting.
>> Hans Petter
>> On 23 December 2014 09:34:33 CET, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have been following various discussions in this process (including
>>> beyond
>>> this commuity) where some are of the opinion that policy should be
>>> separate
>> >from operation. While i also agree with that, but they then go further
>>> to
>>> apply same separation to the community. This is where i think perhaps
>>> we
>>> need to get a clear rationale for that distinction.  Here is what i
>>> think:
>>> - Within the context of IANA operations (down to RIR level) policies
>>> has
>>> always been separated from its implementation (operations) by process
>>> - The processes are executed by 2 main sections of the community, the
>>> staff
>>> and the non-staff members
>>> - By process staff is largely assigned operations (IANA implementation)
>>> - By process the non-staff members of the community are largely
>>> assigned
>>> the policy development
>>> However we would agree that staff participate in PDP because they are
>>> by
>>> process part of the community and their participation is important. I
>>> then
>>> don't understand the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC (for
>>> instance)
>>> would not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at
>>> community
>>> level, infact i think they will be in a better position to do the job.
>>> I
>>> think it will only the fine to select other representative from the
>>> community if the current work of the NRO NC is already recognised to be
>>> significantly enormous (which is not the case in this situation).
>>> Inview of this, i will like to suggest that CRISP team strongly
>>> consider
>>> utilising existing structures effectively instead of creating new ones.
>>> We
>>> have 15 members of NRO-NC but we also know that global policies are not
>>> something that happen often....also the ASO(NRO-NC) in this particular
>>> case
>>> are the ones involved with ICANN and they would be more informed and
>>> know
>>> better on the operations processes.
>>> It will be good to know what aspect of this that i may have missed,
>>> otherwise i think maximising the current systems would go a long way in
>>> our
>>> global resource utilisation.
>>> Thanks
>>> --
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>>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
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