[CRISP-TEAM] Related to Review Committee Fwd: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they differ?
Mwendwa Kivuva
Kivuva at transworldafrica.com
Sun Dec 28 18:38:23 CET 2014
I had made similar suggestions, although I don't have a strong feeling about it.
I think the team was unequivocal that we need to separate policy
development with monitoring.
On 25/12/2014, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> CRISP Team,
>
> This thread looks to me like another comment related to Review Committee.
>
> Seun suggests NRO NC to conduct the review, to make use of existing
> mechanisms. He also asks the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC would
> not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at community
> level.
>
> How shall we consider his feeback to have NRO NC to take this role?
>
> - Do you agree to have NRO NC to conduct the review as suggested, to
> make use of the exising mechanisms? or
> - Do you think we should seperate the roles of bodies which provides
> policy advice and reviews service level of the operation?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Izumi
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they
> differ?
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:26:14 +0100
> From: Hans Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net>
> To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "ianaxfer at nro.net"
> <ianaxfer at nro.net>
>
> I do support the point of using existing structures and not create new.
>
> As far as I can remember this was the clear consensus at the last RIPE
> meeting.
>
> Hans Petter
>
> On 23 December 2014 09:34:33 CET, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I have been following various discussions in this process (including
>>beyond
>>this commuity) where some are of the opinion that policy should be
>>separate
>>from operation. While i also agree with that, but they then go further
>>to
>>apply same separation to the community. This is where i think perhaps
>>we
>>need to get a clear rationale for that distinction. Here is what i
>>think:
>>
>>- Within the context of IANA operations (down to RIR level) policies
>>has
>>always been separated from its implementation (operations) by process
>>- The processes are executed by 2 main sections of the community, the
>>staff
>>and the non-staff members
>>- By process staff is largely assigned operations (IANA implementation)
>>- By process the non-staff members of the community are largely
>>assigned
>>the policy development
>>
>>However we would agree that staff participate in PDP because they are
>>by
>>process part of the community and their participation is important. I
>>then
>>don't understand the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC (for
>>instance)
>>would not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at
>>community
>>level, infact i think they will be in a better position to do the job.
>>I
>>think it will only the fine to select other representative from the
>>community if the current work of the NRO NC is already recognised to be
>>significantly enormous (which is not the case in this situation).
>>
>>Inview of this, i will like to suggest that CRISP team strongly
>>consider
>>utilising existing structures effectively instead of creating new ones.
>>We
>>have 15 members of NRO-NC but we also know that global policies are not
>>something that happen often....also the ASO(NRO-NC) in this particular
>>case
>>are the ones involved with ICANN and they would be more informed and
>>know
>>better on the operations processes.
>>
>>It will be good to know what aspect of this that i may have missed,
>>otherwise i think maximising the current systems would go a long way in
>>our
>>global resource utilisation.
>>
>>Thanks
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb:
>>http://www.fuoye.edu.ng
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>><http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
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>>
>>The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>
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