[CRISP-TEAM] Related to Review Committee Fwd: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they differ?

Mwendwa Kivuva Kivuva at transworldafrica.com
Sun Dec 28 18:38:23 CET 2014

I had made similar suggestions, although I don't have a strong feeling about it.

I think the team was unequivocal that we need to separate policy
development with monitoring.

On 25/12/2014, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> CRISP Team,
> This thread looks to me like another comment related to Review Committee.
> Seun suggests NRO NC to conduct the review, to make use of existing
> mechanisms. He also asks the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC would
> not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at community
> level.
> How shall we consider his feeback to have NRO NC to take this role?
>  - Do you agree to have NRO NC to conduct the review as suggested, to
>    make use of the exising mechanisms? or
>  - Do you think we should seperate the roles of bodies which provides
>    policy advice and reviews service level of the operation?
> What do you think?
> Izumi
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] IANA policy vis IANA operation - How they
> differ?
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:26:14 +0100
> From: Hans Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net>
> To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "ianaxfer at nro.net"
> <ianaxfer at nro.net>
> I do support the point of using existing structures and not create new.
> As far as I can remember this was the clear consensus at the last RIPE
> meeting.
> Hans Petter
> On 23 December 2014 09:34:33 CET, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>I have been following various discussions in this process (including
>>this commuity) where some are of the opinion that policy should be
>>from operation. While i also agree with that, but they then go further
>>apply same separation to the community. This is where i think perhaps
>>need to get a clear rationale for that distinction.  Here is what i
>>- Within the context of IANA operations (down to RIR level) policies
>>always been separated from its implementation (operations) by process
>>- The processes are executed by 2 main sections of the community, the
>>and the non-staff members
>>- By process staff is largely assigned operations (IANA implementation)
>>- By process the non-staff members of the community are largely
>>the policy development
>>However we would agree that staff participate in PDP because they are
>>process part of the community and their participation is important. I
>>don't understand the rationale behind trying to say NRO-NC (for
>>would not be the ideal team to follow-up with staff operations at
>>level, infact i think they will be in a better position to do the job.
>>think it will only the fine to select other representative from the
>>community if the current work of the NRO NC is already recognised to be
>>significantly enormous (which is not the case in this situation).
>>Inview of this, i will like to suggest that CRISP team strongly
>>utilising existing structures effectively instead of creating new ones.
>>have 15 members of NRO-NC but we also know that global policies are not
>>something that happen often....also the ASO(NRO-NC) in this particular
>>are the ones involved with ICANN and they would be more informed and
>>better on the operations processes.
>>It will be good to know what aspect of this that i may have missed,
>>otherwise i think maximising the current systems would go a long way in
>>global resource utilisation.
>>*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb:
>><http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email:
>><http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
>><seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng>*
>>The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>ianaxfer mailing list
>>ianaxfer at nro.net
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