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[Andres]

Dear Izumi,

Thanks for the consideration. I do not have a strong position, just 
wanted that we can discuss more about the rationale behind this desition.

I totally understand Andrei´s and Nurani´s point of view and would be 
comfortable with providing information to the Communitu at the global list.

I will be OK with this procedure.

Regards,

Andrés


El 10/12/2014 a las 12:25 p.m., Izumi Okutani escribió:
> Thanks for raising this Andres. I think it's good to clarify.
>
> I understood Andrei's and Nurani's point as it's important we share 
> and engage with the communities once a draft proposal is ready but 
> sharing the working process at this stage may cause confusions, while 
> it may not necessarily achieve openness desired .
>
> Andres, do you feel keeping the below option described by Nurani could 
> help address your concern/intention, while keeping the archives of 
> crisp at nro.net closed?
>
> > (But it is of course of utmost importance that we also engage with 
> the community through the ianxfer list, as well as our own regional 
> communities.)
>
> Each CRIPS members are free to update the progress with their 
> communities as necessary ofcourse.
>
> It's important that we all feel comfortable with community engagement, 
> so certainly would like to hear if you/anyone else have concerns about 
> this approach.
>
> Izumi
>
> (2014/12/10 21:14), Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> On 10 dec 2014, at 12:49, Andrei Robachevsky <robachevsky at isoc.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andr�s, all,
>>>
>>> Andres wrote on 10/12/14 12:21:
>>>> Thanks Germ�n,
>>>>
>>>> A couple of questions for the rest of the colleagues:
>>>>
>>>> Is this list expected to be closed just for us leaving the IANAXFER 
>>>> for
>>>> the global community? Are those your expectations?
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is my expectation indeed.
>>>
>>>> I wonder if it would be better to open our list for observers that
>>>> cannot post, just read. Would the rest of the CRISP team agree with 
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd prefer to complete the necessary few iterations to produce the 
>>> first
>>> coherent draft response here, within a small group on a closed
>>> mailinglist and then bring it as soon as possible to the open ianaxfer
>>> where we can fully engage with the community, provide justification for
>>> concrete points, incorporate feedback, etc.
>>>
>>> IMO allowing observers to browse through public archives may increase
>>> confusion and doesn't really contribute to the openness of the process.
>>
>> I fully agree with Andrei here.
>>
>> Given the very aggressive timeline, we need to be able to work 
>> efficiently in this group. Or we risk not meeting the set deadline.
>>
>> (But it is of course of utmost importance that we also engage with 
>> the community through the ianxfer list, as well as our own regional 
>> communities.)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Nurani
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andr�s
>>>>
>>>> El 10/12/2014 a las 04:01 a.m., German Valdez escribi�:
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