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Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Wed Dec 10 16:25:25 CET 2014


Thanks for raising this Andres. I think it's good to clarify.

I understood Andrei's and Nurani's point as it's important we share and 
engage with the communities once a draft proposal is ready but sharing 
the working process at this stage may cause confusions, while it may not 
necessarily achieve openness desired .

Andres, do you feel keeping the below option described by Nurani could 
help address your concern/intention, while keeping the archives of 
crisp at nro.net closed?

 > (But it is of course of utmost importance that we also engage with 
the community through the ianxfer list, as well as our own regional 
communities.)

Each CRIPS members are free to update the progress with their 
communities as necessary ofcourse.

It's important that we all feel comfortable with community engagement, 
so certainly would like to hear if you/anyone else have concerns about 
this approach.

Izumi

(2014/12/10 21:14), Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> On 10 dec 2014, at 12:49, Andrei Robachevsky <robachevsky at isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andr�s, all,
>>
>> Andres wrote on 10/12/14 12:21:
>>> Thanks Germ�n,
>>>
>>> A couple of questions for the rest of the colleagues:
>>>
>>> Is this list expected to be closed just for us leaving the IANAXFER for
>>> the global community? Are those your expectations?
>>>
>>
>> This is my expectation indeed.
>>
>>> I wonder if it would be better to open our list for observers that
>>> cannot post, just read. Would the rest of the CRISP team agree with that?
>>>
>>
>> I'd prefer to complete the necessary few iterations to produce the first
>> coherent draft response here, within a small group on a closed
>> mailinglist and then bring it as soon as possible to the open ianaxfer
>> where we can fully engage with the community, provide justification for
>> concrete points, incorporate feedback, etc.
>>
>> IMO allowing observers to browse through public archives may increase
>> confusion and doesn't really contribute to the openness of the process.
>
> I fully agree with Andrei here.
>
> Given the very aggressive timeline, we need to be able to work efficiently in this group. Or we risk not meeting the set deadline.
>
> (But it is of course of utmost importance that we also engage with the community through the ianxfer list, as well as our own regional communities.)
>
> Kind regards,
> Nurani
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andr�s
>>>
>>> El 10/12/2014 a las 04:01 a.m., German Valdez escribi�:
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