[CRISP-TEAM] Notes CRISP Team 1st Teleconference December 9th 2014

German Valdez german at nro.net
Wed Dec 10 09:13:10 CET 2014 

Hi Izumi

No problem.

Cheers

German

> On 10 Dec 2014, at 6:07 pm, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> 
> Hi German,
> 
> 
> Thanks for setting up the e-mail for CRISP members.
> 
> I'd like to add one more to action.
> German, would you be able to help us with this?
> 
> Action: To gather proposals in each RIR regions and post on NRO website.
> 
> I recall this was a good suggestion made by Alan, and we already observe needs for this information in the APNIC region.
> 
> I'll make a call to CRISP Team members in a seperate thread, to share pointers to proposals from their respective regions, to help you gather references to all RIR proposals.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Izumi
> 
> (2014/12/10 16:24), German Valdez wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I'm attaching notes from yesterday teleconference
>> 
>> There is 3 specific actions recorded
>> 
>> Action: GV to create a private, closed mailing list for CRISP members as soon as possible
>> Action: GV to update draft CRISP timeline (addition ofth teleconference, first draft to be submitted to the community on December 18th).
>> Action: Craig, Andrei, Michael, and Esteban to prepare and share a first draft of the document before the next teleconference.
>> 
>> May I have any comments/corrections in the following 24 hours before share the notes in the ianaxfer at nro.net mailing  list
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> German
>> 
>> ===
>> 
>> CRISP teleconference held on Tuesday, December 9th 2014 (13:00 UTC)
>> 
>> Draft Agenda for CRISP teleconference 1
>> 
>> 1. Working method (changes to initial charter)
>>         ��� Chair, Vice-Chair of the CRISP team
>>         ��� ianaxfer at nro.net mailing list
>>         ��� Teleconferences
>>                ��� Quorum
>>                ��� Timeline for teleconferences
>>         ��� Decision-making mechanism
>>         ��� Appeals process
>>         ��� Drafting tools
>> 
>> 2. Scope of activity
>> 
>> 3. Producing an RFP
>>         ��� Survey of current drafting activity
>>                ��� ARIN, RIPE
>>                ��� Other communities (IETF, CWG)
>>         ��� Process for making progress
>>                ��� Divide into sections, sub-teams
>>                        ��� Existing arrangements, IANA stewardship process description
>>                        ��� Proposed arrangements
>>         ��� Timeline for drafting
>> 
>> =======================================
>> CRISP Members present during roll call:
>> 
>> AFRINIC
>> Alan P. Barrett, AB
>> Mwendwa Kivuva, MK
>> Ernest Byaruhanga, EB (Appointed RIR staff) ��� Was not on the call during roll call
>> 
>> APNIC
>> Dr Govind, DG
>> Izumi Okutani, IO
>> Craig Ng, CN (Appointed RIR staff)
>> 
>> ARIN
>> Bill Woodcock, BW
>> John Sweeting, JS
>> Michael Abejuala, MA (Appointed RIR staff)
>> 
>> LACNIC
>> Esteban Lescano, EL
>> Nico Scheper, NS
>> Andres Piazza AP (Appointed RIR staff) - Was not on the call during roll call
>> 
>> RIPE NCC
>> Nurani Nimpuno, NN
>> Andrei Robachevsky, AR
>> Paul Rendek, PR (Appointed RIR staff)
>> 
>> EB and AP joined the teleconference after the roll call.
>> 
>> German Valdez (GV) explained that the agenda was proposed by PR. No items were added to the agenda at this time.
>> 
>> Chair, Vice-Chair of the CRISP team:
>> GV read the names nominated for CRISP chair and vicenominations.
>> 
>> AR proposed a roll call vote, NN and NS supported this motion, no objections were heard so GV proceeded to conduct the roll call in order to record the votes.
>> 
>> The results were
>> 
>> IO: 5 votes
>> AB: 2 votes
>> EL: 1 vote
>> Abstentions: 2
>> 
>> GV moved to accept IO as a chair and AB as vice chair of the CRISP team. No opposition was heard and IO and AB were congratulated.
>> 
>> GV gave the floor to IO.
>> 
>> IO asked for suggestions on which items needed clarification or discussion.
>> 
>> GV suggested they decide on whether quorum would besuggested that the Secretariat could take notes that could be shared on the ianaxfer list after each teleconferences.
>> 
>> After various possibilities were proposed regardingthe tight timeline and the fact that it might hold up the process. He said it would be better to look at the decision-making process instead of focusing on the quorum.
>> 
>> IO said each region should encourage participation of at least one member (instead of defining quorum).
>> 
>> BW suggested having a 24 hour window associated with each call, so that anyone who participated online within those 24 hours could also be counted towards quorum.
>> 
>> EB noted that the CRISP charter does not define quorum for the decision-making process, so that would require changing the charter.
>> 
>> Decision-making mechanism:
>> 
>> IO said that the idea was to try to work on consensusthings would require voting.
>> 
>> GV said that the expectation was that the super-majority criteria would only be used to approve the final draft and that everything else could be decided through consensus.
>> 
>> ianaxfer at nro.net mailing list:
>> 
>> IO noted that transparency and openness are extremely important.
>> 
>> AR noted that the list is open to posting by non-CRISPpurposes (draft iterations, etc.) and using ianaxfer for transparency and seeking comments from the community.
>> 
>> BW and NN agreed. No further comments were heard, socommunicate with the community.
>> 
>> Action: GV to create a private, closed mailing list for CRISP members as soon as possible
>> 
>> Timeline for teleconferences:
>> 
>> IO said the proposed timeline seemed realistic and asked for comments.
>> 
>> BW proposed retaining the same meeting time for all meetings.
>> 
>> IO said they could discuss this further online, creating a poll with GV���s help.
>> 
>> AR said they need to have a few volunteers who can draft the first text to be submitted to the community and volunteered himself.
>> 
>> Because the first teleconference had taken placering the first draft with the community from the 15th to the 18th. He proposed splitting the material and starting to work on items 1 and 2, where there will probably not be much disagreement. Items 3 and 4 might need further debate and reaching agreements.
>> 
>> Action: GV to update draft CRISP timeline (addition ofth teleconference, first draft to be submitted to the community on December 18th).
>> 
>> IO asked for volunteers to prepare the first draft proposal.
>> 
>> CN made a brief summary of the informal discussionsthe three regions��� ideas.
>> 
>> EL and MA offered to help CN draft the comparison between the three proposals.
>> 
>> AB asked that each RIR post their proposals on the NROwas available online at
>> 
>> http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/transicion/inicio.
>> 
>> After a brief discussion regarding the date of the nextnext meeting (11 November, 13.00 UTC) and to have the team of four volunteers discuss among themselves how to best share the workload.
>> 
>> Action: Craig, Andrei, Michael, and Esteban to prepare and share a first draft of the document before the next teleconference.
>> 
>> GV said he���d have the CRISP mailing list ready and use that to send the information for the next teleconference.
>> 
>> After apologizing for having run a bit late, IO adjourned the meeting at 14.19 UTC.
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